Remington 125 grain .3006 ???

**wahoo02** · #1 12-06-2007, 12:31 PM

I was at Academy the other day picking up another box of bullets for my .3006. I normally shoot the 150 grain Hornady bullet for deer hunting. Just from what I've noticed over the years the common bullet weights in .3006 are 150, 165, and 180 grain. Every once in a while you hear someone has a 200+ grain bullet for hog hunting. (I don't load my own rounds.)

I noticed that remington has a new "managed recoil" round and has a 125 grain bullet for the .3006. Maybe these aren't new and I just didn't notice them last year. Has anyone shot this round or heard about its performance? I'm sure remington cut the powder amount along with the bullet weight.

I have my gun sighted in a 100 yards to be 1.8" high, should be dead on at 200 yards, and 5-6" low at 300 yards. I wonder what this ligher round would do out to 300 yards? Would it change much?

Thanks

**wahoo02** · #2 12-06-2007, 12:50 PM

Just looked up the ballistics on remington.com....OUCH. Looks like they sure did cut quite a bit of powder. I guess I won't be buying any of these, looks like the 50% reduction in kick might be true. Though is does offer a good alternative for a kid shooting your .3006.

Velocity (ft/sec)
Cartridge TypeBulletMuzzle100200300400500Remington� Managed Recoil�125266023352034175715091300Remington� Express�150291026172342208318431622

It also has close to 1000 ft-lbs less at muzzle than a standard 150 grain.

Here is a link in case anyone else is interested.

http://www.remington.com/products/am...terfire&cal=30

**wahoo02** · #3 12-06-2007, 12:51 PM

****...my nice little table of velocities sure didn't come through. I'll stop talking to myself.

**Ruff** · #4 12-06-2007, 12:53 PM

I used them earlier this year to sight in my rifle. All shots at 100 yds.

You can definitely feel the difference in the recoil.

Accuracy was not great. It would definitely kill whatever I would shoot at but, I prefer something more accurate. I use ballistic tip.

**THE JAMMER** · #5 12-06-2007, 01:05 PM

The best load I have ever come up with for reduced recoil in a 30-06 (not commercially available- gotta handload), but 130 gr Barnes XXX shoots out of a 30-06 like you can't believe. Much less recoil because of the weight of the bullet, and verrrrrrrry accurate- under an inch, plus it's the best bullet made as far as I'm concerned. I have recovered no less than 5 or 6 of these from killed animals, and every one of them weighed the same afterwards as they did the day I loaded the cartridge.

I would put a 130 grain Barnes XXX up against most regular 165 to 180 grain standard (not premium) bullets. Plus how many elk did Jack O'Connor shoot with 130 grain 270's in the old days of core lokts and such. This is a great load.

I think the reduced loads are for getting kids or wives going, although how many wives or kids could ever recall what the recoil was actually like after shooting an animal. I used to take my kid to the range and let him shoot his Model 7 243 so he wouldn't shy away from recoil. Then when I'd take him hunting I'd substitute the Model 7 308 (looked exactly the same and he never knew the distance). When I told him he had shot a 308 the first time he couldn't believe it. "Man that didn't kick at all Dad." Cha ching!!!

THE JAMMER

**rangerjohn** · #6 12-06-2007, 01:12 PM

yeap that conferms it, i love the 150 gr scirocco bonded. good velocity, least amount of fall on the board at distance. pricey though.

**JD761** · #7 12-06-2007, 02:09 PM

I've used 55gr accelerators before, and couldn't hold a pattern less than 6". Knocked the living snot out of animals though.

**DDAV** · #8 12-06-2007, 02:45 PM

My 10 year old son shot a doe with the .270 version of this load at about 80 yards through the lower portion of both shoulders. She dropped where she stood. Lots of damage to both shoulders and no exit. There was not a whole lot left of the bullet after shattering the top of both front legs. IMHO, it's a great load for kids out to about 100 yards, which is about as far as I'll let mine shoot for now.

**Redfishr** · #9 12-06-2007, 03:28 PM

Go with the real stuff.

**capt_joe** · #10 12-06-2007, 05:52 PM

Remington makes a regular load 125gr.. (not reduce) I know and have seen an old man who shoots nothing but that round in his 50 yr old '03 Springfield..... You might call me a liar or crazy but he kills deer out at 400 to 600 yds all the time....

Its not what you shoot them with.....It's where that counts....