
11-28-2007, 11:57 AM
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anyone own a 257 hot tamale?
the write up pasted...
Fate allowed me to cross paths with an Ackley disciple when I was outfitting in Alberta, Canada. James Ferguson of Wharton, Texas, came to hunt with me, and we struck up a lasting friendship. James is a superb custom rifle builder and has built several hunting rifles for me - all capable of hypervelocity. Two of my favorites are the .257 Ferguson Hot Tamale and the .30-378 Ferguson Mach IV Habanero.
The .257 Hot Tamale is a 7mm STW case necked down to .257 caliber. I shoot either a 100-grain all-copper Barnes Triple Shock bullet or a Lost River Ballistic Technologies 100-grain J-36 bullet in that rifle. The Mach IV Habanero is a custom .30-378 Weatherby cartridge loaded with either a 130-grain Barnes Triple Shock bullet or Barnes 130-grain XLC Coated X Bullet. In both calibers, Ferguson has reached or exceeded 4,000-fps muzzle velocity. The incredible expansion control of the all-copper bullets makes it possible to achieve complete penetration in spite of their light weights and extreme velocities.
To illustrate my point, Ferguson went to South Africa last year with the .257 Hot Tamale in hand. Yes, he was treading on the hallowed tradition of the .375 H&H Magnum, but he convinced his professional hunter to give him a chance. Then he proceeded to anchor plains game large and small in their tracks with a single 100-grain bullet. Game including zebra, wildebeest, kudu, water buck and gemsbuck folded up like scalded spiders upon bullet impact.
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11-28-2007, 12:06 PM
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Funk SHOAL Brutha
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Do you have bullet trajectory info for that 257? Be interested to see how it stacks up against the 257 Wby Mag.
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11-28-2007, 12:27 PM
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Sounds like a hot little cartridge! How many shots until the barrel is burned up? A box and a half? LOL
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11-28-2007, 12:36 PM
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dunno the guy is right down the road from me, will ck.
that has to be one loud rifle
another paste.......
A muzzle velocity of 4,060 fps with a 100-grain, all-copper J-36 bullet (manufactured by Lost River Ballistic Technologies Inc.) and a ballistic coefficient of .532:
+ 1.89 inches at 100 yards
+ 3.15 inches at 200 yards
+ 1.78 inches at 300 yards
Dead-on at 350 yards
– 2.58 inches at 400 yards
– 10.27 inches at 500 yards.
Velocity at 500 yards is still in excess of 3,000 fps.
Energy in foot-pounds generated at the muzzle is 3,660, and at 500 yards, it still maintains 2,057 foot-pounds of energy which is more than adequate for deer-sized game.
The post was from Buckmaster's Gunhunter Magazine in an article by Russell Thornberry. At the time it was written, the .257 Hot Tamale was billed as the fastest-shooting .25 caliber wildcat on the planet. The article sourced the following as contact information if you'd like to inquire about having the gun built and ammunition made.
Ferguson Custom Rifles, 5320 FM 1299, Wharton, TX 77488
(979) 533-0140, (979) 532-4799;
Fax: (979) 532-4108
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11-28-2007, 12:38 PM
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http://www.2joutfitters.com/STWrifle.htm
disclaimer: i don't know anything about these guys , just an interesting cartridge
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11-28-2007, 01:55 PM
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I assume he does his own machine work?
I have a flame thrower in mind he might be able to help me put together.
I have a Winchester P-17 action that I want to barrel for 300RUM. The barrel I want to put on it is a slow twist 30" stainless bull barrel...all I need is the chamber work done...and maybe have the gun blued...I have already taken the "hump" out of the trigger guard...although I may not use it because I want it to be a single shot. I'm not sure if the mag well can handle the 300RUM.
I want to shoot light 125 or 130 grain stuff at 4K FPS. I have a mesquite blank I plan to use for the stock and hope the gun will weight somewhere around 25lbs with a scope on it.
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11-28-2007, 01:58 PM
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spam
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Originally Posted by CoastalOutfitters
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the barrel will be short term due to the speed and powder needed to get it to 4000 mv , my 240 weatherby only made it about 700 rounds with 60gr of 4831 it was a compressed load and had loaded of kill to it but lost MOA about 600 rounds just my 2ct it is a short term gun ? i dont know but looks too hot
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11-28-2007, 02:02 PM
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C,
i have some hornady 130's that i have revved up in my -06 loads , never chrono'd them , but cookin'..........3400 ????
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11-28-2007, 02:05 PM
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Reel Gambler
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Originally Posted by CoastalOutfitters
C,
i have some hornady 130's that i have revved up in my -06 loads , never chrono'd them , but cookin'..........3400 ????
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I've already ditched the 06 barrel and 3400 isn't fast enough! LOL
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11-28-2007, 02:05 PM
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pilar...........uh, no
i really don't know them , but that was the only link to their whole rifle story
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