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Old 04-20-2017, 05:21 PM   #1
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Braid or leader to lure?

I'm interested in how many folks use braided line and NO leader - braid straight to lure. I generally use mono or floro leader but unless the water is really clear, it seems to me that light braid is not going to spook the fish. Has anyone tried both methods long enough to know if fishing without a leader has negative consequences?
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:34 PM   #2
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I used to tie Palomar knot straight to lure.
Sure did get old getting outfished for trout, reds, bass....you name it. My buddies outfished me. And I swore up and down the braid didn't spook em....

Way wrong.
30# braid
Crazy Alberto knot to 20# fluoro or mono leader
Canoe man loop knot to lure
Catch more fish more often under all conditions.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:00 PM   #3
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There are more benefits to using a leader vs not using one.

get hung up and now you have to pull 30lbs of pressure to break the line. If you're using higher test line like fins 40g 45lb, now you're pulling even more pressure against your reel.

when you do break free, now you have several yards less of that expensive line.

braid tied directly to split rings sucks.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:43 PM   #4
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I used to tie Palomar knot straight to lure.
Sure did get old getting outfished for trout, reds, bass....you name it. My buddies outfished me. And I swore up and down the braid didn't spook em....

Way wrong.
30# braid
Crazy Alberto knot to 20# fluoro or mono leader
Canoe man loop knot to lure
Catch more fish more often under all conditions.
^^this is me except for terminal knot connection. About 36" of leader so I have plenty to trim off if nicked and/or retying.
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Old 04-20-2017, 07:43 PM   #5
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I honestly feel like if the fish are biting it doesn't make a difference. In my experience if it makes you feel kroe confident in the lure, then tie it on. But when you are catching fish back to back, I don't think it truly matters. I will usually try and start off with floro with that being said, but if I get broken off I usually won't retie it. I feel like there are so many other factors affecting the bite, but to each his own. I've had times where it seems like it mattered and times where the bite was so good they would've hit anything we threw at em.

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Sounds like you guys use heavier braid than I do - I'm typically at 10-12 lb but I suspect if they spook at 30 lb braid they will at 10-12 - there isn't that much difference in diameter. The neutral colors blend in with are typically stained water - I wouldn't want fluorescent yellow tied directly to my lure.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:19 PM   #7
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Use your location when posting feeching ?? cause the water conditions prevail the answer. Middle coat to lower I will use a leader if the water is clear.

Straight Braid on upper coast and never an issue. Just ask Capt Mickey . I will use a leader in real clear water conditions which dont happen in the upper coast bays (except west ) Topwater benefits some, but i have no issues and cant remember the year that i tied on a leader.

Try it an like it or forget about it
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Old 04-20-2017, 09:27 PM   #8
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When I used braid, I tied Mono as a leader, to a loop knot to jig heads or top water....Floro sinks, but you still need that little stretch, especially if your drag isn't set right. Just my .02

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I have atleast a 3' leader on at all times. I believe anything you can do to help your chances of fooling a fish you do it. Plus I use super slick 8 and I have lost several fish tying straight to topwaters and my knots slipping.
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:31 PM   #10
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I've tried every possible rigging/tying technique. Over 20 yrs experience I eventually settled with plain mono 20# leader connected to 30# braid with Crazy Alberto and all lures are tied with No-Slip Loop.
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