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Old 03-27-2017, 11:20 AM   #901
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Thank you for the well stated, informed, correct analysis of the issue. The situation is proceeding exactly as predicted by Coast and Harbor Engineering, the company that designed the project.

Of course there are still some naysayers (mostly who never fish the coastal bend) who are still hoping it will fail. The reopening of the pass has greatly improved the fishery all the way south to Port Aransas, not just in the immediate area of CB & VS.

It will only get better in the future as the 25 thousand acres of aquatic nursery wetlands in Vinson Slough and vicinity continue to recover from the damage done by a certain "Texas Conservation Legend" and his cohorts who caused the pass and slough to be closed for their own personal interests.

Thanks to all who helped the project proceed.

That "Texas Conservation Legend" donated 1M of the 1.5M that is in the maintenance fund to keep the pass open.
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:48 PM   #902
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Question: Not a complaint about CD and VS. Do y'all think there is an effect on the silting in of South Pass and Contee since Cedar Bayou has been opened....again not complaining.
I wouldn't think so.

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Old 03-27-2017, 04:22 PM   #903
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That "Texas Conservation Legend" donated 1M of the 1.5M that is in the maintenance fund to keep the pass open.
That's a neat trick since he was then long since dead.
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:25 PM   #904
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Without the construction of jetties I think it's just gonna keep being a wasted project.. it's just goin to keep silting in... JMO....
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Without the construction of jetties I think it's just gonna keep being a wasted project.. it's just goin to keep silting in... JMO....
Well guess what mr. negative "just my opinion"....it's still flowing. How about that!!
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That's a neat trick since he was then long since dead.


I stand partially corrected. I read your original post as the current family members, not their father.

I assumed that you were talking about the current generation since all the finger pointing was at them during the permitting process before construction.
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Old 03-28-2017, 09:47 AM   #907
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Without the construction of jetties I think it's just gonna keep being a wasted project.. it's just goin to keep silting in... JMO....
Oh, REALLY ? Is that based on your expert interpretation of the engineering report, or are you shooting from the hip (lip) ?

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Without the construction of jetties I think it's just gonna keep being a wasted project.. it's just goin to keep silting in... JMO....
Headed South Explained perfectly why Jetties would not work. Plus the cost of doing Jetties is not possible. Would be into the hundreds of millions to jettie it just to have it not be able to move like Nature wants it too.
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I stand partially corrected. I read your original post as the current family members, not their father.

I assumed that you were talking about the current generation since all the finger pointing was at them during the permitting process before construction.
The current generation had a change of heart after it became apparent that the project was going to proceed regardless the objections or interference of them or others. After RFA (Recreational Fishing Alliance) and FTCP (Friends of Texas Coastal Passes) withdrew their lawsuit (without prejudice) in the interest of promoting unity, the opposition began falling in line.

None of the opposition wanted the lawsuit reinstated after it became further apparent that they would lose, and probably be forced to pay for the entire project. In addition, some of the newer generation realized the error of their predecessors ways, and (I believe) truly wanted to see the restoration of Vinson Slough. I applaud them for that.

Even CCA got on the bandwagon and helped fund the project after it was obvious the project was moving forward. I'll not comment on their motives, only that I'm thankful for their funding.

I would be remiss if I did not add my thanks to SCBI (Save Cedar Bayou Inc.), particularly the misunderstood and often wrongly maligned Lynn Edwards, for initializing and keeping the (Cedar Bayou portion) of the project alive from the beginning, and through it's darkest days. Without their valiant efforts at great personal expense and sacrifice, There never would have been a project.

Note: The original lawsuit did not name the family or family businesses as plaintiffs, only the government agencies involved, but facts uncovered during the investigation were deeply embarrassing to the family and its patriarch.

Further note: When the Federal Judge ruled the lawsuit could proceed, as the Statute of Limitation did not apply, since the damage was still ongoing, things took a sudden turn for the better.
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The current generation had a change of heart after it became apparent that the project was going to proceed regardless the objections or interference of them or others. After RFA (Recreational Fishing Alliance) and FTCP (Friends of Texas Coastal Passes) withdrew their lawsuit (without prejudice) in the interest of promoting unity, the opposition began falling in line.

None of the opposition wanted the lawsuit reinstated after it became further apparent that they would lose, and probably be forced to pay for the entire project. In addition, some of the newer generation realized the error of their predecessors ways, and (I believe) truly wanted to see the restoration of Vinson Slough. I applaud them for that.

Even CCA got on the bandwagon and helped fund the project after it was obvious the project was moving forward. I'll not comment on their motives, only that I'm thankful for their funding.

I would be remiss if I did not add my thanks to SCBI (Save Cedar Bayou Inc.), particularly the misunderstood and often wrongly maligned Lynn Edwards, for initializing and keeping the (Cedar Bayou portion) of the project alive from the beginning, and through it's darkest days. Without their valiant efforts at great personal expense and sacrifice, There never would have been a project.

Note: The original lawsuit did not name the family or family businesses as plaintiffs, only the government agencies involved, but facts uncovered during the investigation were deeply embarrassing to the family and its patriarch.

Further note: When the Federal Judge ruled the lawsuit could proceed, as the Statute of Limitation did not apply, since the damage was still ongoing, things took a sudden turn for the better.


That is the best background information that I have read. Thanks for the clarification.
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