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Old 03-28-2017, 02:55 PM   #101
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That's been my idea for a long time...State water out to 200 nautical miles...problem solved!
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:21 AM   #102
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Well 200nmiles would keep them from doing the same thing to YFT which I'm sure is coming!
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:12 AM   #103
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Amendment 40 (Sector Separation) was supposedly just about red snapper.
Immediately after AM 40 was approved (by dubious means), they began work on AMs 41 and 42, which would transfer ownership of our fish via Catch Shares to the for-hire corporations.
If you go to: http://gulfcouncil.org/council_meeti...010-7-2016.pdf
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http://gulfcouncil.org/council_meeti...%20Council.pdf
you will see that the Sector Separationists (who claimed Sector Separation was NOT about Catch Shares) were either uninformed or lying - you make the call.

AMs 41 and 42 are ALL ABOUT CATCH SHARES and have expanded their fish grab to include not only red snapper, but now includes greater amberjack, grey triggerfish, gag grouper, and red grouper. If approved, the federal fisheries managers will carve out a sizable portion of our recreational catch limit and gift it to the for-hire corporations for their personal property.

Now, Gary Jarvis, Shane Cantrell, and other EDF-funded captains are pushing for electronic logbooks where they have already been collecting landings data not only for reef fish, but also coastal migratory pelagics. Why? They are building a landings history on everything they catch so that they can lay ownership claims on cobia, wahoo, dorado, and tuna as well.

The NMFS/Gulf Council have failed at their job. They have promoted policies in the last 10 years since Catch Shares were introduced that favors commercial operations at the DIRECT EXPENSE of recreational fishermen and the coastal communities and businesses that rely on them.

The proof is in the pudding; pre-IFQ commercial corporations fished 120 days/year and enjoyed harvesting 4.54 million pounds of snapper. pre-IFQ recreational fishermen enjoyed 194 day seasons / 4 fish bag limits.

Today, commercial corporations enjoy 130% of pre-IFQ harvest levels and 300% of pre-IFQ access. Recreational fishermen however, had just 3% of pre-IFQ access last year, and most certainly less than that this year.

The NMFS/Gulf Council think that managing the Gulf's reef fish, such as snapper, as one unit is the best way to do it. Never mind that the ecosystems, biomass, and effort change dramatically from state to state. Texas fishermen are being managed by what is happening off of Florida. It's like TPWD managing our Texas deer herds based on what is happening with deer populations/hunters in Alabama - they don't do that, because it doesn't make sense scientifically, biologically, or economically.

It's time to call it what it is; the federal fisheries management process is a dismal failure - there is more to managing the fishery than just the fish as there is much more involved than that. Ignoring the effects of Catch Shares on coastal communities, jobs, and other sectors is not acceptable.

It's their job to make sure the fisheries are managed fairly and equitably. Obviously, that is not happening, and not only that, they want to blame the recreational fishermen for not being "accountable". It's not our job - it is in fact THEIR job to make sure their is equilibrium, and we need to demand that it gets done.

The fishery is waaaay out of whack in favor of the commercial/enviro interests. It's time to take steps to provide balance, and it is again obvious that will never happen at the federal level. The answer is state management out to 200 miles.
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:41 PM   #104
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So, I’m reading as many posts concerning the rec fishing problems. I was at the Thursday meeting and was encouraged at the turnout. It would seem that the consensus is for the states to control more miles out. My question is, how can this be accomplished, is it even possible? I’ve already emailed all of my federal and state representatives from President Trump down to my local officials. Can someone, (sorry if this has been addressed, I couldn’t find it through searches), give a step-by-step guide as to the process for giving Texas more control?
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Old 03-30-2017, 07:39 AM   #105
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It's time to call it what it is; the federal fisheries management process is a dismal failure -
In all seriousness, what DOESN'T our gov't do that isn't a "dismal failure"? It's embarrassing.
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Old 03-30-2017, 11:27 AM   #106
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In all seriousness, what DOESN'T our gov't do that isn't a "dismal failure"? It's embarrassing.
They rape every resource they can squeeze a buck out of and they are still trillions in debt.
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Old 03-31-2017, 05:30 PM   #107
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So, I’m reading as many posts concerning the rec fishing problems. I was at the Thursday meeting and was encouraged at the turnout. It would seem that the consensus is for the states to control more miles out. My question is, how can this be accomplished, is it even possible? I’ve already emailed all of my federal and state representatives from President Trump down to my local officials. Can someone, (sorry if this has been addressed, I couldn’t find it through searches), give a step-by-step guide as to the process for giving Texas more control?
Bill HR3094 needs to be reintroduced and made into a rider on the tax cut bill that is coming or any other bill that it can ride on and get passed.

http://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-c...ouse-bill/3094

http://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr...14hr3094rh.pdf
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Congress just needs to pass a law that says recreational fishing limits shall be governed by the state where they are landed.
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Old 03-31-2017, 07:46 PM   #109
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We are setting up a 501-c3 to get everyone on the same page.
Will post up when we get it a little further along.
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Tom - as I've mentioned to you before, let me know if I can assist with the 501(c)(3) setup & compliance. I'm a CPA, have my own firm, and can at least file the required Form 990 each year for the entity (at no charge of course).

We all need to coordinate our efforts before it's too late, and an entity like this can help make that happen.

Thx,
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