Ya'll hear the Clintons last nite?

[Fishman]

Way Slick talked last night, I think he would have a whole lot better chance than Kerry does...

[DISSipator]

You couldn't pay me to watch that drivel.

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[WVAMEDIC]

Ya'll quit bashing Slick Willie. he's a happy man this week. Hillary actually letting him share a hotel room with her for the duration on the convention.

[Fishman]

Yep, its all about family values :)

I didn't watch it but heard it on NPR radio last night about 10:30 while traveling.

Best laugh I had all week.

[Drumbo]

Whats a'matter with you guys? Didn't Yáll know Kerry was a Veit Nam Vet?

C'mon Now, lets get behind the guy. He's going to give all our kids and Grand kids a college education and after all he and Edwards do have the best hair. I just don't understand you guys ............What more could you want? a college education for free,(Choke) best hair, Viet Nam vet,(Highly decorated at that.)

I am going to have to reserch this a little more. I mean all these Freebies he's going to give us.............Oh Darn, Linda just said that it would probably be taken out of our taxes and new ones added on. Shucks!!! Darned If I am going to pay for Haircuts..............Bubba for President!!!!!

[Fishman]

Lets just evaluate him on his resume...

BTW, if anyone has GWB's, please post it! :)

JOB APPLICATION

NAME: John Kerry

RESIDENCE: 7 mansions, including Washington DC , worth multi-millions.

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement. I voted to cut every law
enforcement, CIA and defense bill in my career as a US Senator. I ordered Boston
to remove a fire hydrant in front of my mansion, thereby endangering my
neighbors in the event of fire.

MILITARY: I used three minor injuries to get an early discharge from
the military and service in Vietnam (as documented by the attending
doctor). I then returned to the US , joined Jane Fonda in protesting the
war, and insulted returning Vietnam vets, claiming they committed
atrocities and were baby killers. I threw my medals, ribbons, or something
away in protest. Or did I? My book; Vietnam Veterans Against the War: The
New Soldier shows how I truly feel about the military.

COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my
counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get
admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.BA.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for U.S. Congress and have been there
ever since. I have no real world experience except marrying rich women and
running HJ Heinz vicariously through my wife Teresa.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS: As a US Senator I set the record for the most liberal voting record,
exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. I have consistently failed
to support our military and CIA by voting against budgets, thus gutting our
country's ability to defend itself. Although I voted for the Iraq War, now
I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every
liberal piece of legislation. I have no plan to help this country but I
intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected.

My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will
never catch up. I make no or little charitable contributions and have
never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in MA, despite family wealth
in excess of $ 700 million.

I (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the U.S. in places
like Asia , Mexico and Europe . We can make more profit from the cheaper cost
of labor in those Countries, although I blame George Bush for sending all
of the jobs out of country.

Although I claim to be in favor of alternative energy sources, Ted Kennedy
and I oppose windmills off Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard as it might spoil
our view of the ocean as we cruise on our yachts.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES: None.

PERSONAL: I ride a Serotta Bike.
My Gulfstream V Jet, I call The Flying Squirrel.

I call my $850,000 42-foot Hinckley twin diesel yacht the "Scaramouche".

I am fascinated by rap and hip-hop and feel it reflects our real culture.

I own several "Large" SUVs including one parked at my Nantucket summer
mansion, though I am against large polluting inefficient vehicles and
blame George Bush for the energy problems.

PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.

[Drumbo]

I still say, Lets DRAFT BUBBA

[Aunt Joyce]

This morning on the TTMB I saw a post with replys trashing Willi Nelson for making a guest appearance at the Democratic Convention. I have stood by and said nothing for lo these many months. But THIS TIME I could not hold it in. I thoroughly enjoy reading the "passion" used by both Republicans and Democrats when speaking to the election. So, here was my reply:

C'mon now family ....
I. too, am a Democrat. But you never see me Republican-Bash.

I wouldn't do that. This is a free country. Our forefathers fought to the death for our freedoms. They designed our magnificent Constitution to protect the citizens of the United States and provide the freedom of "choices".

I know I take a risk by just blurting this out. I've now probably lost credibity with some who read this. And it just happens that I'm a long-time fan of Willi Nelson and have been for years. I only wish I could meet him and tell him how his music has influenced my love of music.

Do you think for one minute if the post had said "Willi Nelson made a guest appearance at the Republican Convention" I would have any desire to trash him? Absolutely not!

Willi is a citizen of the United States! He has the RIGHT to choose his party, just as you and I have.

We don't vote because of guest appearances at conventions.

You and I vote the way we believe is best for our nation.

God bless our nation! And God bless the Republicans and the Democrats whose responsibility it is to make this a better nation for its citizens.

God bless George Bush and John Kerry!

Joyce

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[DISSipator]

Aunt Joyce, I would like to ask a few honest questions related to what I see as the biggest difference between Republicans and Democrats since you are a self professed Democrat.

Where do you stand on Abortion?

What are your thoughts on Capitol Punishment?

Do you support Homosexual Marriage?

Are you for removing all references to GOD from our Public Schools and Government?

Of course you don’t have to answer these. I am just looking for answers from across the isle about the most heated issues of our time.

[JettyJumper]

to think a man named Slick WIllie is in the same room as Hillary...........JJ

[Fishman]

Aunt Joyce, I would like to ask a few honest questions related to what I see as the biggest difference between Republicans and Democrats since you are a self professed Democrat.

Where do you stand on Abortion?

What are your thoughts on Capitol Punishment?

Do you support Homosexual Marriage?

Are you for removing all references to GOD from our Public Schools and Government?

Of course you don’t have to answer these. I am just looking for answers from across the isle about the most heated issues of our time.I'll go on record here...
1. I am a registered Democrat, have been since I started voting (although I wonder why)
2. I have no intent to insult anyone, hope I haven't, and just mainly am having fun here with everyone (even tho ya'll know I ain't voting for Kerry and my NC Homeboy Edwards) So if I have offended anyone, let me be the first to offer an apology.

Fishman is opposed to abortion and don't support Kerry for his Pro-choice stance. I am for Capital Punishment. I do not support Homosexual marriage and am not in favor of removing all references to GOD from our Public Schools and Government.

Bottom line...Its great we have a choice, and the freedom to choose who we want come voting time, even though I think there isn't much of a choice either way many election years.
Still glad to be an Americian! http://www.2coolfishing.net/ttmbforum/images/icons/flag.gif

[DISSipator]

I have no intent to insult anyone either.

But I try to ask these questions when ever I'm given the opportunity to. And I actually forgot one.

Do you support Gun Control?

More often than not. I find that people who say they are Democrats do not identify with their party on these issues. And whether they are brought up as a cornerstone during the election cycle or not. They are definitely key issues for the Democrats.

I keep asking my self why do people vote for Democrats. I still don't understand. :confused:

But thanks for answering and being honest Fishman.

[Aunt Joyce]

So here are direct answers to you questions.

Abortions?
Only if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother to be.

Capitol Punishment?
Yes, if the Prosecutors prove the murder(s) was premeditated.

Homosexual marriage?
I'm surprised Fishman that one Bible-believing Christan would ask that of another Bible-believing Christian. But, if you want me to state it, I will. I find such a thing not only offensive but disgusting, too. I particularly are outraged by homosexuals adopting children.

Are you for removing all references to GOD from our Public Schools and Government?
Since I was a little girl in the 30's there have been crackpots trying to remove the evidence of God from our nation. Remember Rome? The Christians had to meet in caves and secret places because if they worshipped in public they were guaranteed to end up in the arena with the lions.

We'll never get THAT far. But we know that Satan is alive and well (many people think you're wierd if you believe in a Satan, but those who love God know better)

Just one more thing I'd like to add.
I mentioned before the Bible reference to the "End Times" very emphatically speaks to the time when what was good in the past will be believed to be bad. And what was bad in the past will be believed to be good. Pause and take time to consider what's been happening in this country in the past twenty years. Grabs you doesn't it?

For non-believers, sadly, it's a confusing prophecy. To believers it's very clear.

About the Democratic regime and the Republican regime.....BOTH have made idiotic decisions from the President's Office. Most certainly the recent 9/11 report from the commission tells us without question BOTH are guilty.

Don't know if this response answers your questions. But I tried. (Right in front of everybody, too!)

Good Will to All,
Joyce

(ps. in case anyone hasn't figured it out, yet, I'm what they call a "peace-maker" but I'd fight like hellsbells to defend this United States!)

[DISSipator]

Thanks for answering Aunt Joyce. Your answers are exactly what I expected.

This isn't so much about one candidate, it's more about the party in general. The Democrats have taken up the banner for these factions that push these agendas some of which conflicts with themselves.

Anyway I will tell you where I stand on the issues as well.
Where do you stand on Abortion? Against it

What are your thoughts on Capitol Punishment? For it

Do you support Homosexual Marriage? No

Are you for removing all references to GOD from our Public Schools and Government? No

Do you support Gun Control? No

I could be wrong on this one. But it just seems to me that if you go to church on Sunday. How can you vote Democrat on Tuesday?

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[Snagged]

So here are direct answers to you questions.

Abortions?
Only if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother to be.

Capitol Punishment?
Yes, if the Prosecutors prove the murder(s) was premeditated.

(snipped)
About the Democratic regime and the Republican regime.....BOTH have made idiotic decisions from the President's Office. Most certainly the recent 9/11 report from the commission tells us without question BOTH are guilty.

Don't know if this response answers your questions. But I tried. (Right in front of everybody, too!)

Good Will to All,
Joyce

(ps. in case anyone hasn't figured it out, yet, I'm what they call a "peace-maker" but I'd fight like hellsbells to defend this United States!)

AJ,
Couple of questions.
Are you against an abortion in the case of rape or incest?
Are you against capital punishment when a simple robber decides to kill someone? After all he just wanted to scare them and get some money.
How about a child molester who suddenly gets scared and decides to eliminate the evidence? After all the molester is sick isn't it?
The old democratic party no longer exist and the republican party is closer to the old left wing of the democrats.
To top it off the two major parties have all but closed the doors to any other party on the ballot.
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Joyce, don't answer if these phrased questions upset you. I think we both know your answers and we both lived in a different society.
Jerry

[Fishman]

I have no intent to insult anyone either.

But I try to ask these questions when ever I'm given the opportunity to. And I actually forgot one.

Do you support Gun Control?

More often than not. I find that people who say they are Democrats do not identify with their party on these issues. And whether they are brought up as a cornerstone during the election cycle or not. They are definitely key issues for the Democrats.

I keep asking my self why do people vote for Democrats. I still don't understand. :confused:

But thanks for answering and being honest Fishman.
Gun control? If gun control means taking away my rights as a law abiding citizen to have and bear arms, and the right to defend my family & property...then the answer is no.

I don't view myself as a Democrat or Republician, I vote for the man I think would do a better job than his opponent. However, the last Democrat I voted for was Jimmy Carter. What does that say? I do feel (this year and others) that all the candidates the Democrats party has fielded was weak. They could have done better. Too Liberal to suit me.

That being that, I don't like alot of the rotten smell coming from the current administration. I don't like a lot of what I hear (assume) about Haliburton, etc. But its no where near enough for me to move my vote to Kerry. All the administrations have their quirks.

So, vote for your choice, who you think will tell the least lies :) cause whoever gets in, not a whole lot will change.

[DISSipator]

Does that include Jews and Catholics and Mormons?

Now that is plain ignorance and bigotry.

So you are so spiritual you can see into the soul of millions of your fellow Americans?

I guess you would prefer the non church goers were shipped of to a camp some where for the final solution?

Absolutely it includes Jews and Catholics and Mormons.

Please explain why it is ignorance and bigotry to wonder why, people who are of a religious/moral background support a political party that stands for issues that goes against what they as individuals believe?

I can't see into anyones soul. If I could I wouldn't be asking anyone these questions.

As for your final solution. That's a little out there. And I don't condone such actions as you are insinuating.
But people who have the opposite opinion of me on the issues that I asked about. I can understand them voting for Democrats. Even though I still wouldn't understand them. This is the odd part to me. If we agree on the issues, why do we disagree on the political party? As I said earlier, Most people I have asked these questions of that have claimed to be Democrats have the same stance I do on those issues.

[FishinChick©]

I hope these boys don't upset you too much AJ. I know some folks are very passionate about politics. Some of us Texans get pretty fired up when we talk about GW.

Hope all is well!

FC

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I hope these boys don't upset you too much AJ. I know some folks are very passionate about politics. Some of us Texans get pretty fired up when we talk about GW.

Hope all is well!

FC
Don't think we are talking GW, thought we were trying to understand others thoughts.
Am I wrong?

[Aunt Joyce]

It's just that right now I just finished my breakfast and I must lay down for a short time to ease my spine.

BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND!
I AM NOTOFFENDED
BY ANY QUESTIONS OR REMARKS

I certainly hope that everyone understands by now this is like our family, sitting in the livingroom, having a conversation. Nothing more nothing less.

I'll be back with answers.

[JettyJumper]

DONT YALL THINK KERRY LOOKS FUNNY? MAN HE MAKES ME LAUGH EVEYR TIME I SEE HIM.. DANG YANKEE.................jj

[Aunt Joyce]

Do you support Gun Control?
I'm not an expert here. But it should be obvious to all of us that there MUST be some control. A man, or woman, needs to be able to protect himself, his family and his property against ANY threat!
But with all the collected wisdom of our lawmakers no one has yet come up with anything that prevents gang members*, robbers, murderers and innocent children from getting guns in their hands. Where there's a will there's a way!
(*we have drive-by shootings by gangs almost every day here in Miami Dade County)

Are you against an abortion in the case of rape or incest?
Absolutely not! (I should have included that in my first response.)

Are you against capital punishment when a simple robber decides to kill someone? After all he just wanted to scare them and get some money.
I consider any murder that results from a person carrying a gun to rob or to frighten someone as "premeditated" murder. The gun wasn't there "accidentally".

How about a child molester who suddenly gets scared and decides to eliminate the evidence? After all the molester is sick isn't it?
As for the "molester" I wish he'd turn the gun on himself instead. Without going into detail, here's a synopsis of a trial I watched, beginning to end. It was on Court TV week after week.
1. Beautiful popular 8-yr old child kidnapped from her bedroom
2. Everybody in neighborhood helps search
3. Kidnapper a man who lives across the street (the man was divorced, his college age son lived with him off and on. He spent a lot of time in the desert with his very big, well-equipped camper. He had taught at college. He was somewhat attractive. Distinguished looking but overweight.
4. The body hadn't been found yet.

It went on, as I said, week after week. Both mother and father were tortured with "where is she?"
Well....after the string of "experts" , seeing movies of the little girl playing, dressing up like Mom...the Jury was instructed and they left to make a decision. Then there were days and days of "Verdict Watch". FINALLY the Jury came back with a verdict.
"Guilty of First Degree Murder". Sentenced to death.
A couple of days later the news reported that he had confessed to the crime during questioning before the trial. But his lawyers advised him to plead "not guilty".
What leverage were the lawyers using? Only the killer knew where the body was and he would refuse to tell anyone where the body was if he didn't get a trial.
see the story at
http://www.courttv.com/trials/westerfield/index.html
So, what does that have to do with the price of tea in Alaska!
Nothing...just think about it!

Whew!
Does that do it?
If you have more questions ...
FIRE AWAY!

[Solid Action]

I'm with Dissipator, how can you answer those questions in that way and still vote Democrat? It is definitely a slippery slope and this country's values will keep sliding if we have a change of office.

[DISSipator]

To assume that a democrat can not be a Christian is ignorant.

I fear the Republican so called Christians, they would force me to pray and attend church like the talaban if they could.
So did Thomas Jefferson, that is why in the Virginia Constitution he but in the Wall of Seperation clause and similar lanauge in the US Constituion.

You far right and deep end religous types go do your thing, thank God you are in the minority fringe.

I enjoy being a moderate, of picking and choosing what I support with out buying the whole nine yards.

At the tops of both parties are the real power brokers, the money men and the corperations. The little man is nothing to them.

Silly me, what was I thinking? Catholics and Jews and other unamerican liberal types, the white sheet wing of the Right Thinking Party of the Republic has a program for that too, ha ha ha . :D Now you know I am just kidding, dont you fellows? Fellows...hey, what is that rope for....


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Jeez you keep going off the deep end on this. No where in the thread can you point to anyone saying anything about forced prayer or a taliban like regime.

It's a simple question of, How do you vote for people who oppose your ideals?


But since you want to go there. Here is a Link to the U.S. Constitution.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html
Please point out this "Wall of Seperation" you speak of.

[CaptDoug]

But you guys keep saying if you believe as Aunt Joyce does, how can she be religious and a Democrat. I'll tell you how. IT'S HER RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN. You see we as Americans have the right to our own opinions of politics and religion and no body is going to take that away period. You guys really need to check to see how all your republican conservatives have voted. Not all have your beliefs, as not all democrats have the beliefs that you think they do. After all wasn't it Rep. Gov. George Ryan of Illinois, that commuted all 167 inmates on death row or facing death row because he cited 13 men had been wrongly accused? 13 out of 167 so we just let all of them off death row. We need a rope for him! Don't vote the party vote the politician!

[Snagged]

Do you support Gun Control?
I'm not an expert here. But it should be obvious to all of us that there MUST be some control. A man, or woman, needs to be able to protect himself, his family and his property against ANY threat!
But with all the collected wisdom of our lawmakers no one has yet come up with anything that prevents gang members*, robbers, murderers and innocent children from getting guns in their hands. Where there's a will there's a way!
(*we have drive-by shootings by gangs almost every day here in Miami Dade County)

Are you against an abortion in the case of rape or incest?
Absolutely not! (I should have included that in my first response.)

Are you against capital punishment when a simple robber decides to kill someone? After all he just wanted to scare them and get some money.
I consider any murder that results from a person carrying a gun to rob or to frighten someone as "premeditated" murder. The gun wasn't there "accidentally".

How about a child molester who suddenly gets scared and decides to eliminate the evidence? After all the molester is sick isn't it?
As for the "molester" I wish he'd turn the gun on himself instead. Without going into detail, here's a synopsis of a trial I watched, beginning to end. It was on Court TV week after week.
1. Beautiful popular 8-yr old child kidnapped from her bedroom
2. Everybody in neighborhood helps search
3. Kidnapper a man who lives across the street (the man was divorced, his college age son lived with him off and on. He spent a lot of time in the desert with his very big, well-equipped camper. He had taught at college. He was somewhat attractive. Distinguished looking but overweight.
4. The body hadn't been found yet.

It went on, as I said, week after week. Both mother and father were tortured with "where is she?"
Well....after the string of "experts" , seeing movies of the little girl playing, dressing up like Mom...the Jury was instructed and they left to make a decision. Then there were days and days of "Verdict Watch". FINALLY the Jury came back with a verdict.
"Guilty of First Degree Murder". Sentenced to death.
A couple of days later the news reported that he had confessed to the crime during questioning before the trial. But his lawyers advised him to plead "not guilty".
What leverage were the lawyers using? Only the killer knew where the body was and he would refuse to tell anyone where the body was if he didn't get a trial.
see the story at
http://www.courttv.com/trials/westerfield/index.html
So, what does that have to do with the price of tea in Alaska!
Nothing...just think about it!

Whew!
Does that do it?
If you have more questions ...
FIRE AWAY!

AJ, we agree on these except for number 1.
You grew up in an era when children had access to more firearms than today and less problems with them. I reject any argument that entertains "it's for the children" because it is a lie when it is spoken by the politicians and power brokers. Blame "parents" who want to lead their own life and just say they have kids. Being married and a parent isn't about "Me" it is about "We."
Gang members and firearms doesn't get it either. I remember when I could purchase a Thomson sub-machinegun from a catalog and there wasn't a problem with them. Try the concept of eliminating criminals quickly and only imprision those who might go straight. By the way, prisons should be places were criminals are punished, it is up to the individual to change him/herself to conform to society. Their problem not ours.
I know you well enough to think you vote people and not parties, correct me if I'm wrong. But over and above all else VOTE!

Jerry

[Aunt Joyce]

that you disagree with my first answer. It's OK if you disagree with each of my answers ... and isn't that what's so great about our USA! And you're correct when you say "More children had access to firearms than today".
What else would you expect? In the 20's people were still digging for gold out West. My father, who was born in St. Louis, Missouri, drove a mule team with a load of Nitroglycerin behind him. He and Mom were part of the growth of the West.
The people that developed the West turned to farming, cattle raising, some continued to mine. With this came the necessity to defend the homestead. So, the men armed themselves to protect their family from Indians, bands of thieves, wild animals and more. They taught their sons how to use the firearms for when they weren't around.
Then came the 30's and 40's and the farming family sat at the dinner table once a month with their Montgomery Ward's catalog and did their shopping. More often than not the guns were ordered from that catalog and arrived in the mail.
But the kids then were not flashing "oozies" (if that's the way you spell it). They were not scrounging in Dad's closet to find the Glock he keeps around. And about the machine gun. I don't know what year it was that you could order one by catalog but we can blame that whole mess on Capone, his henchmen and a corrupt Chicago police force in those days. (kidding of course)
As I said, "I agree" and that's just one of the things that's so great about our USA! We can say what we want to, even to the point of being obnoxious! We can believe in whatever we want to. You and I could exchange all kinds of ideas here without being afraid that someone would crash in our front door and drag us off in the name of the government.
Whoo! I went way off the beaten path here. But I enjoyed it!

[Fishman]

I cannot say that I don't agree with much of what you have said. It most likely represents a majority of opinions that many feel, but cannot or will not say.

I don't agree with much that the Bush crowd has/is doing but I will go on reciord as saying we will be far better off than the Liberal brotherhood of Clinton-Gore-Liberman-Kennedy-Kerry-Edwards clan. What a p*ss poor bunch to choose from. And Edwards is clueless. Here in North Carolina, he has done nothing he can brag about. I emailed him about the marraige ammendment and still haven't gotten a reply, NONE. At least I got a return email from Liddy Dole about that AND the Beach Access issue PROMPTLY.

We'll still be better off with Bush for another term.

We're better off now than what be if Gore was in.

You think its screwed up now...look what will be running in '08.

Screw the party lines. Just vote for who you think will do a better job than his opponent.

I think this thread is great, AJ's board needed a shot in the arm. Thanks to all who are responding. This is America and this is how things get done!

http://www.2coolfishing.net/ttmbforum/images/icons/flag.gifFishman

[Aunt Joyce]

AMEN!
and I wholeheartedly agree with
your comment ... "this thread is great!"
This thread and the one I posted with
photos and comments about WWII
was several pages long!
I saved all the text from the WWII string
and I still thoroughly enjoy Mont's reply:

Mont
web wrangler

Join Date: May 2004
Location: League City, TX
Posts: 305
AJ, that thread is hands down, the finest I have ever seen in over 6 years of being a webmaster. God bless our troops, past, present, and future.
And Thank you Fishman for the way you have kept the embers stirred here when you see the Message Board sitting idle.
And we are going to have more open discussions the the one you started here. We know that our discussions must remain "G-rated"
And, as a matter of fact, you are our "Official Weatherman". How'a that ugly thing in the Gulf doing?

Joyce

[Drumbo]

DONT YALL THINK KERRY LOOKS FUNNY? MAN HE MAKES ME LAUGH EVEYR TIME I SEE HIM.. DANG YANKEE.................jj
I just returned from Pittsburg which is the home of The most wonderful Heinz Family which Kerry or his wife are not blood relatives, although they would have you think they are. Theresa married the late John Heinz,(rep.,PA) who was a great humanatarian. When he was killed over the city of Philadelphia in a bizare mid air collision she inherited his portion of the Heinz fortune. it was then that she proceeded to have a "Brain burp" as she married That Jerk from Boston who calls himself a hero.

The city of Pittsburgh, Fox Chapel in Particular, (the location of the Theresa Heinz estate), is in a proper dither because Kerry is referring to it as "His" Home and estate. Well if you knew anything about the cultural heritage of Pittsburgh, a very working class community with extensive ties to Middle Europe, You could understand how and why they are so upset. But what would you expect from a A dope like him.

Yes I am Yankee and **** Proud of it but I could have been born in WV. and then you guys would be pickin on me like you get at Bubba and the Medic. When the truth is that Kerry ain't good enough to be One or ta' Other. So lets not Label him anything than what he is; An "Ambivolent Dummy" with no throwing arm

[Fishman]

That Jerk from Boston who calls himself a hero.

But what would you expect from a A dope like him.

So lets not Label him anything than what he is; An "Ambivolent Dummy"
Great minds think alike! Don't we?? http://www.2coolfishing.net/ttmbforum/images/icons/dance.gif

[Drumbo]

Yep!! We sure do!!! :help: When we goin Feeshin??:goldfish: