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speckle-catcher
04-13-2009, 01:29 AM
found it growing in a shady area behind my garage, so I dug it up, potted it - and gave it a new home in the sunshine.
what is it?
scwine
04-13-2009, 09:31 AM
Chiltepin, Texas official state "native" pepper.
My favorite. Take an empty Worcestershire sauce bottle and fill up to the top with these peppers(with a few of them poked with knife). Fill with warm apple cider vinegar. Let sit in the pantry for about 4-6 months and you will have some of the best pepper sauce around for soups, stews,beans, greens, etc.
speckle-catcher
04-13-2009, 12:20 PM
should I use the red ones, or the green ones?
MR. L.
04-13-2009, 03:05 PM
which everone you use sample first they are hot. but good
Call me WhittieBass
04-13-2009, 03:09 PM
Good little pepper for some added HEAT in chili.
FREON
04-13-2009, 03:24 PM
should I use the red ones, or the green ones? youze da blue onez......:rotfl:
dbarham
04-13-2009, 03:26 PM
verdes
scwine
04-13-2009, 05:29 PM
Orange/red. After you get use to picking a few, you will be able to tell which ones by how they come off with just the slightest pull.
CoastalOutfitters
04-13-2009, 05:32 PM
i have a bush of those that is about 3 feet tall down at Sargent, they routinely cross with my jalepenos............the japs end up being about 1" long and insanely hot.
scwine
04-13-2009, 06:03 PM
i have a bush of those that is about 3 feet tall down at Sargent, they routinely cross with my jalepenos............the japs end up being about 1" long and insanely hot.
Yep. Same thing happened in my garden a few years ago. I also, believe most of these plants I have bought in the nurseries are a slight hybrid.
The ones that grow wild out at our families place(Sealy) are smaller and totally round.
Either way, they pack some heat.
sandollr
04-13-2009, 07:05 PM
http://tasteoftx.com/recipes/chiles/pequin.html
Blue_Wave028
04-13-2009, 08:09 PM
i have a bush of those that is about 3 feet tall down at Sargent, they routinely cross with my jalepenos............the japs end up being about 1" long and insanely hot.
Have any of them spread that you don't want?
TXPalerider
04-15-2009, 12:14 PM
Chiltepin, Texas official state "native" pepper............
Actually, IMO, the Chiltepin is a little different pepper. It is a rounder "birdseye" pepper that grows wild in the Southwest and is the Texas State Pepper.
See:
http://chiltepin.us/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltepin_pepper
I believe the pepper pictured is a variant of the Chili Pequin/Piquin. They are often identified as/confused with the true wild Chiltepin. In fact, many Pequin peppers are even grown and sold as decorative plants in the U.S. (which may be where this one originated) Also, they are not as hot as a true Chiltepin. Regardless, the pepper pictured will be a good eater.
I eat Chiltepin pepper daily. It is by far my favorite pepper. After they turn red, I dry them and blend into a powder/shake and put it on everything. They are EXTREMELY hot, but the heat doesn't linger like jalepeno or habenero.
Just my 2 cents.
ROBOWADER
04-15-2009, 12:29 PM
I think that is just an ornamental pepper bush. I also have one in a pot, looks identical. Very hot, edible pepper, just no flavor to them, just plain hot.
elpescador073
04-22-2009, 10:20 PM
Yes sir that is a Chili Pequin plant. Very hot!!
scwine
04-22-2009, 11:11 PM
Actually, IMO, the Chiltepin is a little different pepper. It is a rounder "birdseye" pepper that grows wild in the Southwest and is the Texas State Pepper.
See:
http://chiltepin.us/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltepin_pepper
I believe the pepper pictured is a variant of the Chili Pequin/Piquin. They are often identified as/confused with the true wild Chiltepin. In fact, many Pequin peppers are even grown and sold as decorative plants in the U.S. (which may be where this one originated) Also, they are not as hot as a true Chiltepin. Regardless, the pepper pictured will be a good eater.
I eat Chiltepin pepper daily. It is by far my favorite pepper. After they turn red, I dry them and blend into a powder/shake and put it on everything. They are EXTREMELY hot, but the heat doesn't linger like jalepeno or habenero.
Just my 2 cents.
Missed your post. My error.
After I posted my reply I did some more research cause I get confused on the difference and you are correct.
The plant in the pic is indeed a Pequin, and the ones we have in the wild(at our place) are a Chiltepin. Either way they are delicious.
BlueWaveEd
04-23-2009, 12:06 AM
The little round ones were deadly in Elementary school. We decided to see who was the MachoMan on eating those little suckers. Wasn't enough ice cream at any of our houses. Thinking about it brings tears to the eyes. Mom asked what possesed us to do that. We just gave her the look. They grew wild and seemed to be in everybody's flower beds. We called them either Bird's Eye peppers or Chili Pequins.
PasadenaMan
04-23-2009, 12:15 AM
chile piquin, hard to find a real plant nowa days. hottest I have ever had.
Tyler
04-27-2009, 03:44 PM
I have about 5 or more of the chiltepin variety in my yard. I have had one for almost ten years. They are very hot but sure make fine salsa. A good heaping teaspoon to a large can of peeled tomatoes works well. It is about like putting in four jalapenos or three serranos.
I think the mockingbirds must have a cast iron tooter to eat those. They love them and that is how they came to be in my yard. I have given away lots of plants.
hauchinango
07-09-2009, 04:08 PM
any idea how to take a cutting of an existing plant to transfer?
TXPalerider
07-09-2009, 07:55 PM
any idea how to take a cutting of an existing plant to transfer?
Never heard of doing that. If it was that easy, I would have done it years ago. The best way to get a "true" chiltepin pepper is to find one in the wild somewhere in South Texas and dig it up. Other than that, find somebody with a plant and get some seeds out of some peppers and start on you own. Of course that takes much longer.
I have about 12 plants started now that are about 6" tall. But, I've still got my eyes peeled anytime I'm in South Texas.
Timemachine
07-09-2009, 08:01 PM
I grow them in my back yard. One day the "Tres Amigos" (my son and 2 nephews, all 7) got into them and were squishing them. One goes to the bathroom and come runnig out crying and screaming..."It burns".
Wash your hand after picking these nuclear chilis. Just saying
Joester
07-09-2009, 08:48 PM
I have the same plant and it's as tall as the eaves on the house. The stalk is about 1.5" now and has been growing year round now three years. Friend of ours makes some great hot sauce with them. And yes, they are very hot!:brew:
FishinFoolFaron
07-09-2009, 09:17 PM
My father tried for years to domesticate/transplant the wild ones into our garden in Goliad without success. They would seem to finish the season without producing and then die.
I found the seeds in a catalog from "Totally Tomatoes" and managed to get them to grow and produce in Michigan along with a lot of other things my mother told me would not grow there (including Bluebonnets). Mine were not near as hot as the wild ones.
TXPalerider
07-09-2009, 11:34 PM
I have the same plant and it's as tall as the eaves on the house. The stalk is about 1.5" now and has been growing year round now three years. Friend of ours makes some great hot sauce with them. And yes, they are very hot!:brew:
The best way I've found to eat them is:
Pick them and let them dry until they become brittle (a dehydrator will speed up the process, but it's not necessary), then put them in a blender and make a powder out of them. Put it in a spice shaker and use as a shake on anything you want to spice up. The flavor is awesome!! But, a little bit goes a LONG way.
boat_money
07-10-2009, 09:59 AM
i have 6 large bushes that were "planted in my backyard by the mockingbirds that were eating my tomatoes. never done anything with them but dare the neighbors kids to eat 'em :) i'll have to harvest some 2nite and try the drying and the worceshire thing...
speckle-catcher
10-20-2009, 11:03 AM
My little pepper plant is hanging in there, I finally was able to get some peppers off of it before the birds did. :D
but - in the process, I found that it has many of these orange bugs on it - what are they? are they bad, and if so - how do I kill them?
speckle-catcher
10-20-2009, 11:13 AM
quick search and i think I found my answer:
juvenile of the leaf-footed bug: Leptoglossus phyllopus
http://bugguide.net/node/view/213890/bgpage
http://bugguide.net/node/view/213890/bgpage
http://bugguide.net/node/view/213890/bgpage
TXPalerider
10-20-2009, 11:42 AM
quick search and i think I found my answer:
juvenile of the leaf-footed bug: Leptoglossus phyllopus
http://bugguide.net/node/view/213890/bgpage
http://bugguide.net/node/view/213890/bgpage
http://bugguide.net/node/view/213890/bgpage
Doesn't sound good.
Fathead
10-20-2009, 11:54 AM
quick search and i think I found my answer:
juvenile of the leaf-footed bug: Leptoglossus phyllopus
Correct. They are on my tomato plants too. I spray w/neem oil weekly, but these require manual eradication. Fortunately I have a 9yr-old eradication specialist who lovest his job.
speckle-catcher
10-20-2009, 12:11 PM
manual eradication? what method?
I think I read the Sevin Dust will work, and I have that at home.
I'm not going for organic - so I don't mind using a pesticide.
boat_money
10-20-2009, 12:24 PM
try blue dawn dish soap mixed w/ water in a spray bottle...
Pequin will grow in home gardens and chiltepin is wild and the only way that you will make it grow in a garden is if a bird dropped a seed. The reason for this is that the seeds have a coating that unless the brids intestins take it off, the seed will got germinate.
Dad found a way to beat this and that it is by drying the chiles and crushing them with the molcajete (morter). The action in the rock will peel the coating on the chile allowing it to germinate. So after dad makes salsa on the molcajete, he cleans his molcajete in his garden to dorp the seeds. He gets a few pants per year, not all seeds gets peeled thru the process.
I would add hot petters such as the pequin itself or fresh jalapeņos in the blender to the soap water mix and use the spray bottle method. Saw this on a "green" show and tried it on a lemon tree and it worked.
try blue dawn dish soap mixed w/ water in a spray bottle...
Gilbert
10-20-2009, 02:32 PM
try blue dawn dish soap mixed w/ water in a spray bottle...
I would add hot petters such as the pequin itself or fresh jalapeņos in the blender to the soap water mix and use the spray bottle method. Saw this on a "green" show and tried it on a lemon tree and it worked.
I'm going to try this. I got those little ugly things on my plants as well. I didn't know what they were.
Haute Pursuit
10-21-2009, 12:09 AM
manual eradication? what method?
I think I read the Sevin Dust will work, and I have that at home.
I'm not going for organic - so I don't mind using a pesticide.
Sevin will work. It kept the bastages off my tomatoes.
ONDABORDER
10-21-2009, 06:21 AM
Pequin will grow in home gardens and chiltepin is wild and the only way that you will make it grow in a garden is if a bird dropped a seed. The reason for this is that the seeds have a coating that unless the brids intestins take it off, the seed will got germinate.
Dad found a way to beat this and that it is by drying the chiles and crushing them with the molcajete (morter). The action in the rock will peel the coating on the chile allowing it to germinate. So after dad makes salsa on the molcajete, he cleans his molcajete in his garden to dorp the seeds. He gets a few pants per year, not all seeds gets peeled thru the process.
Interesting! Thanks! Never heard of that.
:texasflag
HEADSHAKER
10-24-2009, 08:39 PM
PURTY IN TOE RESTING kiko,when i was a kid i rember those birdseye pepers,also they had a pepper i called a buckshot pepper.It was about the size of a china berry and mister it was verrree hot.ever seen one of those!
bobbyoshay
10-24-2009, 09:51 PM
you can make a Tabasco type hot sauce by putting a bunch of them into a jar and filling with vinegar! it is awesome! when you run out of the liquid you can add more vinegar and you simply have some more. if you want it even hotter smash some up!
Maritime
10-26-2009, 08:17 PM
For a cruel joke, pop one with your fingers and rub it on a buddies cigarette or around the lip of a beer can and watch him freak out. HAHA!!
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